The ASF Slack

[Anton Vinogradov-2]

Igniters,
I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1] (committers seems
to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
This should simplify communication between the contributors.

P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the Slack, but Slack is
a more suitable place for short or private communications.

[1] https://the-asf.slack.com
[2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK

[Nikolay Izhikov-2]

Anton,

Can we create channels for ticket, IEP discussions in ASF slack?


В Пн, 26/08/2019 в 16:09 +0300, Anton Vinogradov пишет:

> Igniters,
> I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1] (committers seems
> to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
> This should simplify communication between the contributors.
>
> P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the Slack, but Slack is
> a more suitable place for short or private communications.
>
> [1] https://the-asf.slack.com
> [2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK

[Anton Vinogradov-2]

Nikolay,

Let's try ;)

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Anton,
>
> Can we create channels for ticket, IEP discussions in ASF slack?
>
>
> В Пн, 26/08/2019 в 16:09 +0300, Anton Vinogradov пишет:
> > Igniters,
> > I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1] (committers
> seems
> > to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
> > This should simplify communication between the contributors.
> >
> > P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the Slack, but Slack
> is
> > a more suitable place for short or private communications.
> >
> > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com
> > [2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK
>

[Dmitry Pavlov]

Hi,

If we use the example of Apache Beam, usually these channels relate to a
module or language, e.g. beam-python,  beam-ml, etc.

I also support the idea of ASF slack usage. Moreover, we can ask Infra to
install automatic translation of messages to English. It may help
non-native speakers to communicate.

Let's just remember the motto:
If it didn't happen on the list - it didn't happen.

Sincerely,
Dmitriy Pavlov

пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:22, Anton Vinogradov <[hidden email]>:

> Nikolay,
>
> Let's try ;)
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Anton,
> >
> > Can we create channels for ticket, IEP discussions in ASF slack?
> >
> >
> > В Пн, 26/08/2019 в 16:09 +0300, Anton Vinogradov пишет:
> > > Igniters,
> > > I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1] (committers
> > seems
> > > to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
> > > This should simplify communication between the contributors.
> > >
> > > P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the Slack, but
> Slack
> > is
> > > a more suitable place for short or private communications.
> > >
> > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com
> > > [2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK
> >
>

[Alexey Zinoviev]

I think that channels for separate IEP-s is too much.
But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in the
Internet. Maybe it's wrong idea to discuss something there instead of
dev-list?

пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:27, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>:

> Hi,
>
> If we use the example of Apache Beam, usually these channels relate to a
> module or language, e.g. beam-python,  beam-ml, etc.
>
> I also support the idea of ASF slack usage. Moreover, we can ask Infra to
> install automatic translation of messages to English. It may help
> non-native speakers to communicate.
>
> Let's just remember the motto:
> If it didn't happen on the list - it didn't happen.
>
> Sincerely,
> Dmitriy Pavlov
>
> пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:22, Anton Vinogradov <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Nikolay,
> >
> > Let's try ;)
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Anton,
> > >
> > > Can we create channels for ticket, IEP discussions in ASF slack?
> > >
> > >
> > > В Пн, 26/08/2019 в 16:09 +0300, Anton Vinogradov пишет:
> > > > Igniters,
> > > > I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1] (committers
> > > seems
> > > > to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
> > > > This should simplify communication between the contributors.
> > > >
> > > > P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the Slack, but
> > Slack
> > > is
> > > > a more suitable place for short or private communications.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com
> > > > [2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK
> > >
> >
>

[Dmitry Pavlov]

I agree with Alexey, since Dev list it better place in most cases. Apache
does not prohibit peer 2 peer communication, and ASF slack can be used as a
messenger.

The main thing here is that we (all community) clearly understand that ASF
slack is the replacement to Skype/Rocket Chat/Calls, it is not a
replacement for the list.

Each private agreement should be published as intent in the list. Only
after some time and there are no objections - it is valid agreement.

пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:56, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:

> I think that channels for separate IEP-s is too much.
> But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in the
> Internet. Maybe it's wrong idea to discuss something there instead of
> dev-list?
>
> пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:27, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > If we use the example of Apache Beam, usually these channels relate to a
> > module or language, e.g. beam-python,  beam-ml, etc.
> >
> > I also support the idea of ASF slack usage. Moreover, we can ask Infra to
> > install automatic translation of messages to English. It may help
> > non-native speakers to communicate.
> >
> > Let's just remember the motto:
> > If it didn't happen on the list - it didn't happen.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >
> > пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:22, Anton Vinogradov <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Nikolay,
> > >
> > > Let's try ;)
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Anton,
> > > >
> > > > Can we create channels for ticket, IEP discussions in ASF slack?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > В Пн, 26/08/2019 в 16:09 +0300, Anton Vinogradov пишет:
> > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1]
> (committers
> > > > seems
> > > > > to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
> > > > > This should simplify communication between the contributors.
> > > > >
> > > > > P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the Slack, but
> > > Slack
> > > > is
> > > > > a more suitable place for short or private communications.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com
> > > > > [2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[agura]

> But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in the
Internet

+1

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:56 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I think that channels for separate IEP-s is too much.
> But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in the
> Internet. Maybe it's wrong idea to discuss something there instead of
> dev-list?
>
> пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:27, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > If we use the example of Apache Beam, usually these channels relate to a
> > module or language, e.g. beam-python,  beam-ml, etc.
> >
> > I also support the idea of ASF slack usage. Moreover, we can ask Infra to
> > install automatic translation of messages to English. It may help
> > non-native speakers to communicate.
> >
> > Let's just remember the motto:
> > If it didn't happen on the list - it didn't happen.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >
> > пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:22, Anton Vinogradov <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Nikolay,
> > >
> > > Let's try ;)
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Anton,
> > > >
> > > > Can we create channels for ticket, IEP discussions in ASF slack?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > В Пн, 26/08/2019 в 16:09 +0300, Anton Vinogradov пишет:
> > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1] (committers
> > > > seems
> > > > > to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
> > > > > This should simplify communication between the contributors.
> > > > >
> > > > > P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the Slack, but
> > > Slack
> > > > is
> > > > > a more suitable place for short or private communications.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com
> > > > > [2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK
> > > >
> > >
> >

[dmagda]

Anton,

Thanks for starting the conversation. I think that we need to explain to
our community how and why we came to this proposal. I've started another
discussion with details, sorry for not doing it earlier:
http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Making-Ignite-Collaboration-100-Open-and-Transparent-td43244.html

--
Denis



On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:43 AM Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in the
> Internet
>
> +1
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:56 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I think that channels for separate IEP-s is too much.
> > But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in the
> > Internet. Maybe it's wrong idea to discuss something there instead of
> > dev-list?
> >
> > пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:27, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > If we use the example of Apache Beam, usually these channels relate to
> a
> > > module or language, e.g. beam-python,  beam-ml, etc.
> > >
> > > I also support the idea of ASF slack usage. Moreover, we can ask Infra
> to
> > > install automatic translation of messages to English. It may help
> > > non-native speakers to communicate.
> > >
> > > Let's just remember the motto:
> > > If it didn't happen on the list - it didn't happen.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > >
> > > пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:22, Anton Vinogradov <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > Nikolay,
> > > >
> > > > Let's try ;)
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Anton,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can we create channels for ticket, IEP discussions in ASF slack?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > В Пн, 26/08/2019 в 16:09 +0300, Anton Vinogradov пишет:
> > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1]
> (committers
> > > > > seems
> > > > > > to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
> > > > > > This should simplify communication between the contributors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the Slack,
> but
> > > > Slack
> > > > > is
> > > > > > a more suitable place for short or private communications.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com
> > > > > > [2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>

[Denis Mekhanikov]

Anton,

You need to have an apache email to register in the ASF Slack. Is it
supposed to be like this? I don't think it's fair to limit the circle
of communication this way.
Non-blocking PME discussion is going to happen there, for example, and
I won't be able to attend it, since I don't have an Apache email. But
I'd really like to hear the discussion.
Is there a way to relief this limitation?

Denis

пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 21:58, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:

>
> Anton,
>
> Thanks for starting the conversation. I think that we need to explain to
> our community how and why we came to this proposal. I've started another
> discussion with details, sorry for not doing it earlier:
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Making-Ignite-Collaboration-100-Open-and-Transparent-td43244.html
>
> --
> Denis
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:43 AM Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > > But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in the
> > Internet
> >
> > +1
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:56 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think that channels for separate IEP-s is too much.
> > > But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in the
> > > Internet. Maybe it's wrong idea to discuss something there instead of
> > > dev-list?
> > >
> > > пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:27, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > If we use the example of Apache Beam, usually these channels relate to
> > a
> > > > module or language, e.g. beam-python,  beam-ml, etc.
> > > >
> > > > I also support the idea of ASF slack usage. Moreover, we can ask Infra
> > to
> > > > install automatic translation of messages to English. It may help
> > > > non-native speakers to communicate.
> > > >
> > > > Let's just remember the motto:
> > > > If it didn't happen on the list - it didn't happen.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > >
> > > > пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:22, Anton Vinogradov <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > Nikolay,
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's try ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Anton,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can we create channels for ticket, IEP discussions in ASF slack?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > В Пн, 26/08/2019 в 16:09 +0300, Anton Vinogradov пишет:
> > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1]
> > (committers
> > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
> > > > > > > This should simplify communication between the contributors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the Slack,
> > but
> > > > > Slack
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > a more suitable place for short or private communications.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com
> > > > > > > [2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >

[Alexey Plekhanov]

Denis,

You don't need an apache email to register in the ASF Slack. Here is
the link [1] to join with any email.

[1]: https://s.apache.org/slack-invite


вт, 10 сент. 2019 г. в 12:52, Denis Mekhanikov <[hidden email]>:

> Anton,
>
> You need to have an apache email to register in the ASF Slack. Is it
> supposed to be like this? I don't think it's fair to limit the circle
> of communication this way.
> Non-blocking PME discussion is going to happen there, for example, and
> I won't be able to attend it, since I don't have an Apache email. But
> I'd really like to hear the discussion.
> Is there a way to relief this limitation?
>
> Denis
>
> пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 21:58, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > Anton,
> >
> > Thanks for starting the conversation. I think that we need to explain to
> > our community how and why we came to this proposal. I've started another
> > discussion with details, sorry for not doing it earlier:
> >
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Making-Ignite-Collaboration-100-Open-and-Transparent-td43244.html
> >
> > --
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:43 AM Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > > But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in
> the
> > > Internet
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:56 PM Alexey Zinoviev <
> [hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think that channels for separate IEP-s is too much.
> > > > But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in
> the
> > > > Internet. Maybe it's wrong idea to discuss something there instead of
> > > > dev-list?
> > > >
> > > > пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:27, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > If we use the example of Apache Beam, usually these channels
> relate to
> > > a
> > > > > module or language, e.g. beam-python,  beam-ml, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also support the idea of ASF slack usage. Moreover, we can ask
> Infra
> > > to
> > > > > install automatic translation of messages to English. It may help
> > > > > non-native speakers to communicate.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's just remember the motto:
> > > > > If it didn't happen on the list - it didn't happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > >
> > > > > пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:22, Anton Vinogradov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nikolay,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's try ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM Nikolay Izhikov <
> [hidden email]
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anton,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can we create channels for ticket, IEP discussions in ASF
> slack?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > В Пн, 26/08/2019 в 16:09 +0300, Anton Vinogradov пишет:
> > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1]
> > > (committers
> > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
> > > > > > > > This should simplify communication between the contributors.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the
> Slack,
> > > but
> > > > > > Slack
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > a more suitable place for short or private communications.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com
> > > > > > > > [2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>

[Denis Mekhanikov]

Guys, please disregard my previous message.

What I was missing is the following link: https://s.apache.org/slack-invite

Denis
On 10 Sep 2019, 12:52 +0300, Denis Mekhanikov <[hidden email]>, wrote:

> Anton,
>
> You need to have an apache email to register in the ASF Slack. Is it
> supposed to be like this? I don't think it's fair to limit the circle
> of communication this way.
> Non-blocking PME discussion is going to happen there, for example, and
> I won't be able to attend it, since I don't have an Apache email. But
> I'd really like to hear the discussion.
> Is there a way to relief this limitation?
>
> Denis
>
> пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 21:58, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > Anton,
> >
> > Thanks for starting the conversation. I think that we need to explain to
> > our community how and why we came to this proposal. I've started another
> > discussion with details, sorry for not doing it earlier:
> > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Making-Ignite-Collaboration-100-Open-and-Transparent-td43244.html
> >
> > --
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:43 AM Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > > But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in the
> > > Internet
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:56 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think that channels for separate IEP-s is too much.
> > > > But the slack is not indexing and not accessible for all people in the
> > > > Internet. Maybe it's wrong idea to discuss something there instead of
> > > > dev-list?
> > > >
> > > > пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:27, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > If we use the example of Apache Beam, usually these channels relate to
> > > a
> > > > > module or language, e.g. beam-python, beam-ml, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also support the idea of ASF slack usage. Moreover, we can ask Infra
> > > to
> > > > > install automatic translation of messages to English. It may help
> > > > > non-native speakers to communicate.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's just remember the motto:
> > > > > If it didn't happen on the list - it didn't happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > >
> > > > > пн, 26 авг. 2019 г. в 16:22, Anton Vinogradov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nikolay,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's try ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anton,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can we create channels for ticket, IEP discussions in ASF slack?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > В Пн, 26/08/2019 в 16:09 +0300, Anton Vinogradov пишет:
> > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > I'd like to propose you to register at the ASF Slack [1]
> > > (committers
> > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > to be already registered) and join the Ignite channel [2].
> > > > > > > > This should simplify communication between the contributors.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > P.s. I'm not saying we have to replace devlist with the Slack,
> > > but
> > > > > > Slack
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > a more suitable place for short or private communications.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com
> > > > > > > > [2] https://the-asf.slack.com/messages/C7E04VCPK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >