Proposed Release: 2.7.7 = 2.7.6 + ML + extra fixed bugs

[Alexey Zinoviev]

Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the next release of
Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we have no chance to
release the whole master branch, but we have cool changes in ML component
that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).

I'm ready to become a release manager of the special release with the taste
of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all known fixed issues for
2.7.6 release.

Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql component and could be
delivered without major changes in 2.7.6

I hope to found the support from the community side and maybe we deliver
another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration and another ready
component without strong ties with core component in the future according
this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)

What do you think, Igniters?

[Nikolay Izhikov-2]

Hello, Alexey

> we have no chance to
> release the whole master branch

Why do you think so?
From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7 release, shortly(end of September of similar)

В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:

> Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the next release of
> Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we have no chance to
> release the whole master branch, but we have cool changes in ML component
> that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
>
> I'm ready to become a release manager of the special release with the taste
> of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all known fixed issues for
> 2.7.6 release.
>
> Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql component and could be
> delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
>
> I hope to found the support from the community side and maybe we deliver
> another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration and another ready
> component without strong ties with core component in the future according
> this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
>
> What do you think, Igniters?

[Nikolay Izhikov-2]

> of 2.7 release

It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.


В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:

> Hello, Alexey
>
> > we have no chance to
> > release the whole master branch
>
> Why do you think so?
> From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7 release, shortly(end of September of similar)
>
> В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the next release of
> > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we have no chance to
> > release the whole master branch, but we have cool changes in ML component
> > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> >
> > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special release with the taste
> > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all known fixed issues for
> > 2.7.6 release.
> >
> > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql component and could be
> > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> >
> > I hope to found the support from the community side and maybe we deliver
> > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration and another ready
> > component without strong ties with core component in the future according
> > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> >
> > What do you think, Igniters?

[Maxim Muzafarov]

Folks,

Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing Apache Ignite 2.8
version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
Am I missing something?

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> > of 2.7 release
>
> It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
>
>
> В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > Hello, Alexey
> >
> > > we have no chance to
> > > release the whole master branch
> >
> > Why do you think so?
> > From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7 release, shortly(end of September of similar)
> >
> > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the next release of
> > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we have no chance to
> > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool changes in ML component
> > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > >
> > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special release with the taste
> > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all known fixed issues for
> > > 2.7.6 release.
> > >
> > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql component and could be
> > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > >
> > > I hope to found the support from the community side and maybe we deliver
> > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration and another ready
> > > component without strong ties with core component in the future according
> > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > >
> > > What do you think, Igniters?

[Alexey Zinoviev]

Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module till 1 December
(end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to known issues and
bugs)
If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will be happy in
another case I suggest the minor release by the formula mentioned above.

Let's ask another module maintainers here?

ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:

> Folks,
>
> Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing Apache Ignite 2.8
> version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> Am I missing something?
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > of 2.7 release
> >
> > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> >
> >
> > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > Hello, Alexey
> > >
> > > > we have no chance to
> > > > release the whole master branch
> > >
> > > Why do you think so?
> > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7 release,
> shortly(end of September of similar)
> > >
> > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the next release of
> > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we have no
> chance to
> > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool changes in ML
> component
> > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > >
> > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special release with
> the taste
> > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all known fixed
> issues for
> > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > >
> > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql component and could
> be
> > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > >
> > > > I hope to found the support from the community side and maybe we
> deliver
> > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration and another
> ready
> > > > component without strong ties with core component in the future
> according
> > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > >
> > > > What do you think, Igniters?
>

[Nikolay Izhikov-2]

Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.

В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:

> Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module till 1 December
> (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to known issues and
> bugs)
> If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will be happy in
> another case I suggest the minor release by the formula mentioned above.
>
> Let's ask another module maintainers here?
>
> ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing Apache Ignite 2.8
> > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > of 2.7 release
> > >
> > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > >
> > >
> > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > >
> > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > >
> > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7 release,
> >
> > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > >
> > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the next release of
> > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we have no
> >
> > chance to
> > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool changes in ML
> >
> > component
> > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special release with
> >
> > the taste
> > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all known fixed
> >
> > issues for
> > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql component and could
> >
> > be
> > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope to found the support from the community side and maybe we
> >
> > deliver
> > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration and another
> >
> > ready
> > > > > component without strong ties with core component in the future
> >
> > according
> > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think, Igniters?

[dmagda]

Igniters,

2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number of issues and
regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the next year,
especially considering the holiday season. An alternate solution can be a
series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more hardened with each
version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For instance, ML and
Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered critical issues
can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.

As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?

-
Denis


On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
>
> В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module till 1 December
> > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to known issues
> and
> > bugs)
> > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will be happy in
> > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula mentioned above.
> >
> > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> >
> > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing Apache Ignite 2.8
> > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > Am I missing something?
> > >
> > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > >
> > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > >
> > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7 release,
> > >
> > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > >
> > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the next
> release of
> > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we have no
> > >
> > > chance to
> > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool changes in ML
> > >
> > > component
> > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special release with
> > >
> > > the taste
> > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all known fixed
> > >
> > > issues for
> > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql component and
> could
> > >
> > > be
> > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community side and maybe we
> > >
> > > deliver
> > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration and
> another
> > >
> > > ready
> > > > > > component without strong ties with core component in the future
> > >
> > > according
> > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
>

[Dmitry Pavlov]

I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.

But someday we will anyway need to release master state. Let's not freeze
master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.

So I like option with 2.8 release more.

Sincerely,
Dmitriy Pavlov

чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:

> Igniters,
>
> 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number of issues and
> regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the next year,
> especially considering the holiday season. An alternate solution can be a
> series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more hardened with each
> version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For instance, ML and
> Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered critical issues
> can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
>
> As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
>
> -
> Denis
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> >
> > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module till 1
> December
> > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to known issues
> > and
> > > bugs)
> > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will be happy in
> > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula mentioned
> above.
> > >
> > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > >
> > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing Apache Ignite 2.8
> > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > Am I missing something?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > >
> > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7 release,
> > > >
> > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the next
> > release of
> > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we have
> no
> > > >
> > > > chance to
> > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool changes in ML
> > > >
> > > > component
> > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special release
> with
> > > >
> > > > the taste
> > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all known
> fixed
> > > >
> > > > issues for
> > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql component and
> > could
> > > >
> > > > be
> > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community side and maybe
> we
> > > >
> > > > deliver
> > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration and
> > another
> > > >
> > > > ready
> > > > > > > component without strong ties with core component in the future
> > > >
> > > > according
> > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
> >
>

[Pavel Tupitsyn]

+1 for 2.8

We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
>
> But someday we will anyway need to release master state. Let's not freeze
> master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
>
> So I like option with 2.8 release more.
>
> Sincerely,
> Dmitriy Pavlov
>
> чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Igniters,
> >
> > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number of issues and
> > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the next year,
> > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate solution can be a
> > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more hardened with each
> > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For instance, ML
> and
> > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered critical
> issues
> > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> >
> > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> >
> > -
> > Denis
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > >
> > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module till 1
> > December
> > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to known
> issues
> > > and
> > > > bugs)
> > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will be happy in
> > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula mentioned
> > above.
> > > >
> > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > >
> > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > Folks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing Apache Ignite
> 2.8
> > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7
> release,
> > > > >
> > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the next
> > > release of
> > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we have
> > no
> > > > >
> > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool changes in
> ML
> > > > >
> > > > > component
> > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special release
> > with
> > > > >
> > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all known
> > fixed
> > > > >
> > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql component and
> > > could
> > > > >
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community side and maybe
> > we
> > > > >
> > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration and
> > > another
> > > > >
> > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core component in the
> future
> > > > >
> > > > > according
> > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
> > >
> >
>

[Nikolay Izhikov-2]

+1 for 2.8 from me

Scope:

* master fixes
* ML improvements
* IEP-35: Metric + System views.



В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет:

> +1 for 2.8
>
> We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
> >
> > But someday we will anyway need to release master state. Let's not freeze
> > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
> >
> > So I like option with 2.8 release more.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >
> > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Igniters,
> > >
> > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number of issues and
> > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the next year,
> > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate solution can be a
> > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more hardened with each
> > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For instance, ML
> >
> > and
> > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered critical
> >
> > issues
> > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> > >
> > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> > >
> > > -
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > > >
> > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module till 1
> > >
> > > December
> > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to known
> >
> > issues
> > > > and
> > > > > bugs)
> > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will be happy in
> > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula mentioned
> > >
> > > above.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > > >
> > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing Apache Ignite
> >
> > 2.8
> > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7
> >
> > release,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the next
> > > >
> > > > release of
> > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we have
> > >
> > > no
> > > > > >
> > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool changes in
> >
> > ML
> > > > > >
> > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special release
> > >
> > > with
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all known
> > >
> > > fixed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql component and
> > > >
> > > > could
> > > > > >
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community side and maybe
> > >
> > > we
> > > > > >
> > > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration and
> > > >
> > > > another
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core component in the
> >
> > future
> > > > > >
> > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?

[Alexey Zinoviev]

No objection from my side if somebody could say that master is ready or
will be ready to release in a few months

чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 14:21, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:

> +1 for 2.8 from me
>
> Scope:
>
> * master fixes
> * ML improvements
> * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
>
>
>
> В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет:
> > +1 for 2.8
> >
> > We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
> > >
> > > But someday we will anyway need to release master state. Let's not
> freeze
> > > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
> > >
> > > So I like option with 2.8 release more.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > >
> > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > Igniters,
> > > >
> > > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number of issues
> and
> > > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the next year,
> > > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate solution can
> be a
> > > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more hardened with
> each
> > > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For instance,
> ML
> > >
> > > and
> > > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered critical
> > >
> > > issues
> > > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> > > >
> > > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Denis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > > > >
> > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module till 1
> > > >
> > > > December
> > > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to known
> > >
> > > issues
> > > > > and
> > > > > > bugs)
> > > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will be
> happy in
> > > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula mentioned
> > > >
> > > > above.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]
> >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing Apache
> Ignite
> > >
> > > 2.8
> > > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <
> [hidden email]
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7
> > >
> > > release,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the
> next
> > > > >
> > > > > release of
> > > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we
> have
> > > >
> > > > no
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool
> changes in
> > >
> > > ML
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special
> release
> > > >
> > > > with
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all
> known
> > > >
> > > > fixed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql
> component and
> > > > >
> > > > > could
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community side and
> maybe
> > > >
> > > > we
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration
> and
> > > > >
> > > > > another
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core component in the
> > >
> > > future
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
>

[Maxim Muzafarov]

Alexey, Denis,

I've always thought that we are living in a paradigm that `the master
branch is the release ready branch`. Don't we? If so, then we should
take additional attention to commits we make, because it's true that
we have some `blocker` release issues in the master branch. I also
think all these issues are solvable and 2+ months is more than enough
to fix them. Am I missing something?

I'm +1 for 2.8 release. We should not hold the master branch for years.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:52, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> No objection from my side if somebody could say that master is ready or
> will be ready to release in a few months
>
> чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 14:21, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
>
> > +1 for 2.8 from me
> >
> > Scope:
> >
> > * master fixes
> > * ML improvements
> > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> >
> >
> >
> > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет:
> > > +1 for 2.8
> > >
> > > We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
> > > >
> > > > But someday we will anyway need to release master state. Let's not
> > freeze
> > > > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
> > > >
> > > > So I like option with 2.8 release more.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > >
> > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > Igniters,
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number of issues
> > and
> > > > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the next year,
> > > > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate solution can
> > be a
> > > > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more hardened with
> > each
> > > > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For instance,
> > ML
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered critical
> > > >
> > > > issues
> > > > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> > > > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > Denis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module till 1
> > > > >
> > > > > December
> > > > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to known
> > > >
> > > > issues
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > bugs)
> > > > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will be
> > happy in
> > > > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula mentioned
> > > > >
> > > > > above.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]
> > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing Apache
> > Ignite
> > > >
> > > > 2.8
> > > > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <
> > [hidden email]
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7
> > > >
> > > > release,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the
> > next
> > > > > >
> > > > > > release of
> > > > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we
> > have
> > > > >
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool
> > changes in
> > > >
> > > > ML
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special
> > release
> > > > >
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all
> > known
> > > > >
> > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql
> > component and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community side and
> > maybe
> > > > >
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration
> > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core component in the
> > > >
> > > > future
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
> >

[Nikolay Izhikov-2]

Scope:

* master fixes
* ML improvements
* IEP-35: Metric + System views.
* New implementation of Service Grid


В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 18:56 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:

> Alexey, Denis,
>
> I've always thought that we are living in a paradigm that `the master
> branch is the release ready branch`. Don't we? If so, then we should
> take additional attention to commits we make, because it's true that
> we have some `blocker` release issues in the master branch. I also
> think all these issues are solvable and 2+ months is more than enough
> to fix them. Am I missing something?
>
> I'm +1 for 2.8 release. We should not hold the master branch for years.
>
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:52, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > No objection from my side if somebody could say that master is ready or
> > will be ready to release in a few months
> >
> > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 14:21, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > +1 for 2.8 from me
> > >
> > > Scope:
> > >
> > > * master fixes
> > > * ML improvements
> > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет:
> > > > +1 for 2.8
> > > >
> > > > We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
> > > > >
> > > > > But someday we will anyway need to release master state. Let's not
> > >
> > > freeze
> > > > > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I like option with 2.8 release more.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > >
> > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number of issues
> > >
> > > and
> > > > > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the next year,
> > > > > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate solution can
> > >
> > > be a
> > > > > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more hardened with
> > >
> > > each
> > > > > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For instance,
> > >
> > > ML
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered critical
> > > > >
> > > > > issues
> > > > > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > Denis
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module till 1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > December
> > > > > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to known
> > > > >
> > > > > issues
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > bugs)
> > > > > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will be
> > >
> > > happy in
> > > > > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula mentioned
> > > > > >
> > > > > > above.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]
> > > >
> > > > :
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing Apache
> > >
> > > Ignite
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.8
> > > > > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <
> > >
> > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of 2.7
> > > > >
> > > > > release,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for the
> > >
> > > next
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > release of
> > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I understand we
> > >
> > > have
> > > > > >
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool
> > >
> > > changes in
> > > > >
> > > > > ML
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the special
> > >
> > > release
> > > > > >
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus all
> > >
> > > known
> > > > > >
> > > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql
> > >
> > > component and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community side and
> > >
> > > maybe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark integration
> > >
> > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core component in the
> > > > >
> > > > > future
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?

[dmagda]

Ok, let's start an official discussion about 2.8 release and select the one
who will be driving/managing it.

-
Denis


On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:01 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Scope:
>
> * master fixes
> * ML improvements
> * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> * New implementation of Service Grid
>
>
> В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 18:56 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > Alexey, Denis,
> >
> > I've always thought that we are living in a paradigm that `the master
> > branch is the release ready branch`. Don't we? If so, then we should
> > take additional attention to commits we make, because it's true that
> > we have some `blocker` release issues in the master branch. I also
> > think all these issues are solvable and 2+ months is more than enough
> > to fix them. Am I missing something?
> >
> > I'm +1 for 2.8 release. We should not hold the master branch for years.
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:52, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > No objection from my side if somebody could say that master is ready or
> > > will be ready to release in a few months
> > >
> > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 14:21, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > +1 for 2.8 from me
> > > >
> > > > Scope:
> > > >
> > > > * master fixes
> > > > * ML improvements
> > > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет:
> > > > > +1 for 2.8
> > > > >
> > > > > We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]
> >
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But someday we will anyway need to release master state. Let's
> not
> > > >
> > > > freeze
> > > > > > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I like option with 2.8 release more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > >
> > > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number of
> issues
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > > > > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the next
> year,
> > > > > > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate
> solution can
> > > >
> > > > be a
> > > > > > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more
> hardened with
> > > >
> > > > each
> > > > > > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For
> instance,
> > > >
> > > > ML
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered
> critical
> > > > > >
> > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > Denis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <
> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module
> till 1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > December
> > > > > > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to
> known
> > > > > >
> > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > bugs)
> > > > > > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will
> be
> > > >
> > > > happy in
> > > > > > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula
> mentioned
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > above.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <
> [hidden email]
> > > > >
> > > > > :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing
> Apache
> > > >
> > > > Ignite
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2.8
> > > > > > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > >
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of
> 2.7
> > > > > >
> > > > > > release,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev
> пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for
> the
> > > >
> > > > next
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > release of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I
> understand we
> > > >
> > > > have
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool
> > > >
> > > > changes in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ML
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the
> special
> > > >
> > > > release
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus
> all
> > > >
> > > > known
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql
> > > >
> > > > component and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community
> side and
> > > >
> > > > maybe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark
> integration
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core component
> in the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > future
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
>

[Maxim Muzafarov]

Folks,

I'll create an appropriate topic.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 20:00, Denis Magda <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Ok, let's start an official discussion about 2.8 release and select the one
> who will be driving/managing it.
>
> -
> Denis
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:01 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Scope:
> >
> > * master fixes
> > * ML improvements
> > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > * New implementation of Service Grid
> >
> >
> > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 18:56 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > Alexey, Denis,
> > >
> > > I've always thought that we are living in a paradigm that `the master
> > > branch is the release ready branch`. Don't we? If so, then we should
> > > take additional attention to commits we make, because it's true that
> > > we have some `blocker` release issues in the master branch. I also
> > > think all these issues are solvable and 2+ months is more than enough
> > > to fix them. Am I missing something?
> > >
> > > I'm +1 for 2.8 release. We should not hold the master branch for years.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:52, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No objection from my side if somebody could say that master is ready or
> > > > will be ready to release in a few months
> > > >
> > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 14:21, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 for 2.8 from me
> > > > >
> > > > > Scope:
> > > > >
> > > > > * master fixes
> > > > > * ML improvements
> > > > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет:
> > > > > > +1 for 2.8
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But someday we will anyway need to release master state. Let's
> > not
> > > > >
> > > > > freeze
> > > > > > > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I like option with 2.8 release more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number of
> > issues
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the next
> > year,
> > > > > > > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate
> > solution can
> > > > >
> > > > > be a
> > > > > > > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more
> > hardened with
> > > > >
> > > > > each
> > > > > > > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For
> > instance,
> > > > >
> > > > > ML
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered
> > critical
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > Denis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <
> > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML module
> > till 1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > December
> > > > > > > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due to
> > known
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > bugs)
> > > > > > > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I will
> > be
> > > > >
> > > > > happy in
> > > > > > > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula
> > mentioned
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > above.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > [hidden email]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing
> > Apache
> > > > >
> > > > > Ignite
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2.8
> > > > > > > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > > >
> > > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start discussion of
> > 2.7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > release,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev
> > пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting for
> > the
> > > > >
> > > > > next
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > release of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I
> > understand we
> > > > >
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have cool
> > > > >
> > > > > changes in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ML
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the
> > special
> > > > >
> > > > > release
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML plus
> > all
> > > > >
> > > > > known
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql
> > > > >
> > > > > component and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community
> > side and
> > > > >
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark
> > integration
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core component
> > in the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > future
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
> >

[Alexey Zinoviev]

Please post the link to this thread when you'll create the topic to close
this discussion
From my side, unfortunately, I'm not ready to be a driver of the 2.8
release, but could as one of the Santa's helpers.

чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 20:12, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:

> Folks,
>
> I'll create an appropriate topic.
>
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 20:00, Denis Magda <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, let's start an official discussion about 2.8 release and select the
> one
> > who will be driving/managing it.
> >
> > -
> > Denis
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:01 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Scope:
> > >
> > > * master fixes
> > > * ML improvements
> > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > > * New implementation of Service Grid
> > >
> > >
> > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 18:56 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > Alexey, Denis,
> > > >
> > > > I've always thought that we are living in a paradigm that `the master
> > > > branch is the release ready branch`. Don't we? If so, then we should
> > > > take additional attention to commits we make, because it's true that
> > > > we have some `blocker` release issues in the master branch. I also
> > > > think all these issues are solvable and 2+ months is more than enough
> > > > to fix them. Am I missing something?
> > > >
> > > > I'm +1 for 2.8 release. We should not hold the master branch for
> years.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:52, Alexey Zinoviev <
> [hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > No objection from my side if somebody could say that master is
> ready or
> > > > > will be ready to release in a few months
> > > > >
> > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 14:21, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 for 2.8 from me
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scope:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * master fixes
> > > > > > * ML improvements
> > > > > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет:
> > > > > > > +1 for 2.8
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <
> [hidden email]
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But someday we will anyway need to release master state.
> Let's
> > > not
> > > > > >
> > > > > > freeze
> > > > > > > > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I like option with 2.8 release more.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <[hidden email]
> >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number
> of
> > > issues
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the
> next
> > > year,
> > > > > > > > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate
> > > solution can
> > > > > >
> > > > > > be a
> > > > > > > > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more
> > > hardened with
> > > > > >
> > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For
> > > instance,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ML
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered
> > > critical
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > Denis
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML
> module
> > > till 1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > December
> > > > > > > > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due
> to
> > > known
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > bugs)
> > > > > > > > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I
> will
> > > be
> > > > > >
> > > > > > happy in
> > > > > > > > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula
> > > mentioned
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > above.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing
> > > Apache
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ignite
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2.8
> > > > > > > > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov
> пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start
> discussion of
> > > 2.7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > release,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev
> > > пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting
> for
> > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > release of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I
> > > understand we
> > > > > >
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have
> cool
> > > > > >
> > > > > > changes in
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ML
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember
> 2018).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the
> > > special
> > > > > >
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML
> plus
> > > all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > known
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql
> > > > > >
> > > > > > component and
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community
> > > side and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark
> > > integration
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core
> component
> > > in the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > future
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
> > >
>

[Maxim Muzafarov]

Folks,


The new thread with 2.8 RELEASE discussion has been scheduled.

http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Ignite-2-8-RELEASE-Time-Scope-Manager-td43616.html

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 20:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Please post the link to this thread when you'll create the topic to close
> this discussion
> From my side, unfortunately, I'm not ready to be a driver of the 2.8
> release, but could as one of the Santa's helpers.
>
> чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 20:12, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > I'll create an appropriate topic.
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 20:00, Denis Magda <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, let's start an official discussion about 2.8 release and select the
> > one
> > > who will be driving/managing it.
> > >
> > > -
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:01 AM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Scope:
> > > >
> > > > * master fixes
> > > > * ML improvements
> > > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > > > * New implementation of Service Grid
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 18:56 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > Alexey, Denis,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've always thought that we are living in a paradigm that `the master
> > > > > branch is the release ready branch`. Don't we? If so, then we should
> > > > > take additional attention to commits we make, because it's true that
> > > > > we have some `blocker` release issues in the master branch. I also
> > > > > think all these issues are solvable and 2+ months is more than enough
> > > > > to fix them. Am I missing something?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm +1 for 2.8 release. We should not hold the master branch for
> > years.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:52, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No objection from my side if somebody could say that master is
> > ready or
> > > > > > will be ready to release in a few months
> > > > > >
> > > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 14:21, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]
> > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 for 2.8 from me
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scope:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * master fixes
> > > > > > > * ML improvements
> > > > > > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет:
> > > > > > > > +1 for 2.8
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <
> > [hidden email]
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But someday we will anyway need to release master state.
> > Let's
> > > > not
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > freeze
> > > > > > > > > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I like option with 2.8 release more.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <[hidden email]
> > >:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number
> > of
> > > > issues
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the
> > next
> > > > year,
> > > > > > > > > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate
> > > > solution can
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > be a
> > > > > > > > > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more
> > > > hardened with
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For
> > > > instance,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ML
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered
> > > > critical
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > Denis
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML
> > module
> > > > till 1
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > December
> > > > > > > > > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due
> > to
> > > > known
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > bugs)
> > > > > > > > > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > happy in
> > > > > > > > > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula
> > > > mentioned
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > above.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing
> > > > Apache
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ignite
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2.8
> > > > > > > > > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov
> > пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start
> > discussion of
> > > > 2.7
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > release,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev
> > > > пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > release of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I
> > > > understand we
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have
> > cool
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > changes in
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ML
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember
> > 2018).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the
> > > > special
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML
> > plus
> > > > all
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > known
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > component and
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community
> > > > side and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark
> > > > integration
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core
> > component
> > > > in the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > future
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
> > > >
> >