OSv'ing Ignite

[Konstantin Boudnik-2]

Guys,

I don't know how many ppl here have heard about OSv [1] before. In short: it
is a cloud-computing focused OS, running on a hyperviser. Unlike a traditional
VM it has a tiny footprint and a miniscule startup time, hence adding 1-2
seconds to the application bootstrap. Unlike Docker, it provides full
process isolation. Plus many other tangible benefits.

I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-811 to experiment
with mix of Ignite and OSv, which I believe can provide us with even better
performance and deployment advantages, compared to what we already have in
this project.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSv

Would love to hear any ideas, feedback from your guys.
  Cos

[dsetrakyan]

Cos,

This definitely sounds very investing. Is there any coding involved here,
or should be simple install-n-run?

D.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Guys,
>
> I don't know how many ppl here have heard about OSv [1] before. In short:
> it
> is a cloud-computing focused OS, running on a hyperviser. Unlike a
> traditional
> VM it has a tiny footprint and a miniscule startup time, hence adding 1-2
> seconds to the application bootstrap. Unlike Docker, it provides full
> process isolation. Plus many other tangible benefits.
>
> I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-811 to
> experiment
> with mix of Ignite and OSv, which I believe can provide us with even better
> performance and deployment advantages, compared to what we already have in
> this project.
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSv
>
> Would love to hear any ideas, feedback from your guys.
>   Cos
>
>
>

[Konstantin Boudnik-2]

Shouldn't be no coding, as far as I remember my early experiments with it.
I will start playing with it and will keep the ticket updated on the findings.

Cos

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 04:48PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:

> Cos,
>
> This definitely sounds very investing. Is there any coding involved here,
> or should be simple install-n-run?
>
> D.
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > I don't know how many ppl here have heard about OSv [1] before. In short:
> > it
> > is a cloud-computing focused OS, running on a hyperviser. Unlike a
> > traditional
> > VM it has a tiny footprint and a miniscule startup time, hence adding 1-2
> > seconds to the application bootstrap. Unlike Docker, it provides full
> > process isolation. Plus many other tangible benefits.
> >
> > I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-811 to
> > experiment
> > with mix of Ignite and OSv, which I believe can provide us with even better
> > performance and deployment advantages, compared to what we already have in
> > this project.
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSv
> >
> > Would love to hear any ideas, feedback from your guys.
> >   Cos
> >
> >
> >

[dsetrakyan]

Couldn't see their license on their website. Do you know the license for
OSv?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shouldn't be no coding, as far as I remember my early experiments with it.
> I will start playing with it and will keep the ticket updated on the
> findings.
>
> Cos
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 04:48PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:
> > Cos,
> >
> > This definitely sounds very investing. Is there any coding involved here,
> > or should be simple install-n-run?
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > I don't know how many ppl here have heard about OSv [1] before. In
> short:
> > > it
> > > is a cloud-computing focused OS, running on a hyperviser. Unlike a
> > > traditional
> > > VM it has a tiny footprint and a miniscule startup time, hence adding
> 1-2
> > > seconds to the application bootstrap. Unlike Docker, it provides full
> > > process isolation. Plus many other tangible benefits.
> > >
> > > I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-811 to
> > > experiment
> > > with mix of Ignite and OSv, which I believe can provide us with even
> better
> > > performance and deployment advantages, compared to what we already
> have in
> > > this project.
> > >
> > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSv
> > >
> > > Would love to hear any ideas, feedback from your guys.
> > >   Cos
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

[Konstantin Boudnik-2]

It's licensed under BSD.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 05:03PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:

> Couldn't see their license on their website. Do you know the license for
> OSv?
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Shouldn't be no coding, as far as I remember my early experiments with it.
> > I will start playing with it and will keep the ticket updated on the
> > findings.
> >
> > Cos
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 04:48PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:
> > > Cos,
> > >
> > > This definitely sounds very investing. Is there any coding involved here,
> > > or should be simple install-n-run?
> > >
> > > D.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Guys,
> > > >
> > > > I don't know how many ppl here have heard about OSv [1] before. In
> > short:
> > > > it
> > > > is a cloud-computing focused OS, running on a hyperviser. Unlike a
> > > > traditional
> > > > VM it has a tiny footprint and a miniscule startup time, hence adding
> > 1-2
> > > > seconds to the application bootstrap. Unlike Docker, it provides full
> > > > process isolation. Plus many other tangible benefits.
> > > >
> > > > I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-811 to
> > > > experiment
> > > > with mix of Ignite and OSv, which I believe can provide us with even
> > better
> > > > performance and deployment advantages, compared to what we already
> > have in
> > > > this project.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSv
> > > >
> > > > Would love to hear any ideas, feedback from your guys.
> > > >   Cos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >

[Roman Shaposhnik]

Ping me with questions. I ran Gemfire under it and it was fine (actually
I had to work with OSv guys on implementing multicast at the time ;-)).

The only restriction on OSv is no forking. It is, after all, a single image
approach. That was a challenge fro Gemfire's gfsh tool, so I had to hack
it to spin up OSv images as opposed to exec'ing jvms.

What I'm really hoping to do is to get Yardstick to measure Geode and
Ignite as-is but also via OSv. Let me know if anybody would be willing
to collaborate on the project.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shouldn't be no coding, as far as I remember my early experiments with it.
> I will start playing with it and will keep the ticket updated on the findings.
>
> Cos
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 04:48PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:
>> Cos,
>>
>> This definitely sounds very investing. Is there any coding involved here,
>> or should be simple install-n-run?
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Guys,
>> >
>> > I don't know how many ppl here have heard about OSv [1] before. In short:
>> > it
>> > is a cloud-computing focused OS, running on a hyperviser. Unlike a
>> > traditional
>> > VM it has a tiny footprint and a miniscule startup time, hence adding 1-2
>> > seconds to the application bootstrap. Unlike Docker, it provides full
>> > process isolation. Plus many other tangible benefits.
>> >
>> > I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-811 to
>> > experiment
>> > with mix of Ignite and OSv, which I believe can provide us with even better
>> > performance and deployment advantages, compared to what we already have in
>> > this project.
>> >
>> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSv
>> >
>> > Would love to hear any ideas, feedback from your guys.
>> >   Cos
>> >
>> >
>> >

[Konstantin Boudnik-2]

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 03:33PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Ping me with questions. I ran Gemfire under it and it was fine (actually
> I had to work with OSv guys on implementing multicast at the time ;-)).
>
> The only restriction on OSv is no forking. It is, after all, a single image
> approach. That was a challenge fro Gemfire's gfsh tool, so I had to hack
> it to spin up OSv images as opposed to exec'ing jvms.

Yeah, that's the great part with Ignite - everything is in process ;)

> What I'm really hoping to do is to get Yardstick to measure Geode and
> Ignite as-is but also via OSv. Let me know if anybody would be willing
> to collaborate on the project.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Shouldn't be no coding, as far as I remember my early experiments with it.
> > I will start playing with it and will keep the ticket updated on the findings.
> >
> > Cos
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 04:48PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:
> >> Cos,
> >>
> >> This definitely sounds very investing. Is there any coding involved here,
> >> or should be simple install-n-run?
> >>
> >> D.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Guys,
> >> >
> >> > I don't know how many ppl here have heard about OSv [1] before. In short:
> >> > it
> >> > is a cloud-computing focused OS, running on a hyperviser. Unlike a
> >> > traditional
> >> > VM it has a tiny footprint and a miniscule startup time, hence adding 1-2
> >> > seconds to the application bootstrap. Unlike Docker, it provides full
> >> > process isolation. Plus many other tangible benefits.
> >> >
> >> > I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-811 to
> >> > experiment
> >> > with mix of Ignite and OSv, which I believe can provide us with even better
> >> > performance and deployment advantages, compared to what we already have in
> >> > this project.
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSv
> >> >
> >> > Would love to hear any ideas, feedback from your guys.
> >> >   Cos
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >

[dsetrakyan]

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Ping me with questions. I ran Gemfire under it and it was fine (actually
> I had to work with OSv guys on implementing multicast at the time ;-)).
>
> The only restriction on OSv is no forking. It is, after all, a single image
> approach. That was a challenge fro Gemfire's gfsh tool, so I had to hack
> it to spin up OSv images as opposed to exec'ing jvms.
>
> What I'm really hoping to do is to get Yardstick to measure Geode and
> Ignite as-is but also via OSv. Let me know if anybody would be willing
> to collaborate on the project.
>

Roman, I am definitely interested in collaborating.

As far as the docker benchmarks for Yardstick, all you need is a GitHub
repository storing Geode benchmarks. Instructions on how to run them on AWS
are documented on the yardstick-docker page.

> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > Shouldn't be no coding, as far as I remember my early experiments with
> it.
> > I will start playing with it and will keep the ticket updated on the
> findings.
> >
> > Cos
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 04:48PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:
> >> Cos,
> >>
> >> This definitely sounds very investing. Is there any coding involved
> here,
> >> or should be simple install-n-run?
> >>
> >> D.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Guys,
> >> >
> >> > I don't know how many ppl here have heard about OSv [1] before. In
> short:
> >> > it
> >> > is a cloud-computing focused OS, running on a hyperviser. Unlike a
> >> > traditional
> >> > VM it has a tiny footprint and a miniscule startup time, hence adding
> 1-2
> >> > seconds to the application bootstrap. Unlike Docker, it provides full
> >> > process isolation. Plus many other tangible benefits.
> >> >
> >> > I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-811 to
> >> > experiment
> >> > with mix of Ignite and OSv, which I believe can provide us with even
> better
> >> > performance and deployment advantages, compared to what we already
> have in
> >> > this project.
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSv
> >> >
> >> > Would love to hear any ideas, feedback from your guys.
> >> >   Cos
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>