Hi!
The Nabble forum formats emails in a way that makes quoted messages unreadable. For example, take a look at the latest messages in the following thread: http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Ignite-2-7-6-Time-Scope-and-Release-manager-td42944.html The beginning of the messages look fine, but by the end they turn into something like >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If nobody minds, I will create branch 2.7.6 >> based >> > > on >> > > > > >> > > > > 2.7.5 >> > > > > > > and >> > > > > > > > > > set up >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > in >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the TC Bot during the weekend. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ivan Pavlukhin >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > Zhenya Stanilovsky >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> Email clients suffer from such formatting. Some start working extremely slowly, some just apply psychedelic colouring. Can we do something with it? It seems to me that line wrapping is causing this. Nabble forum for users list doesn’t seem to suffer from such issue: http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/ For example, the following thread is long, but it’s formatted just fine: http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/Access-a-cache-loaded-by-DataStreamer-with-SQL-td27180.html Can we configure the dev list forum in the same way? Denis |
Hi Denis,
AFAIK, nabble forums are service, which resides outside of ASF infra. They have their separate support/feedback form. Maybe some PMC members could have some credentials for this service. If so, please share login info in SVN/private/credentials. Sincerely, Dmitriy Pavlov вт, 27 авг. 2019 г. в 12:12, Denis Mekhanikov <[hidden email]>: > Hi! > > The Nabble forum formats emails in a way that makes quoted messages > unreadable. > > For example, take a look at the latest messages in the following thread: > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Ignite-2-7-6-Time-Scope-and-Release-manager-td42944.html > > The beginning of the messages look fine, but by the end they turn into > something like > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If nobody minds, I will create branch 2.7.6 > >> based > >> > > on > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 2.7.5 > >> > > > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > set up > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > in > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the TC Bot during the weekend. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ivan Pavlukhin > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > > Zhenya Stanilovsky > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > Email clients suffer from such formatting. Some start working extremely > slowly, some just apply psychedelic colouring. > Can we do something with it? It seems to me that line wrapping is causing > this. > > Nabble forum for users list doesn’t seem to suffer from such issue: > http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/ > For example, the following thread is long, but it’s formatted just fine: > http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/Access-a-cache-loaded-by-DataStreamer-with-SQL-td27180.html > Can we configure the dev list forum in the same way? > > Denis > |
Guys,
Any update? Who has a Nabble admin account for the developers list? Denis On 27 Aug 2019, 14:55 +0300, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>, wrote: > Hi Denis, > > AFAIK, nabble forums are service, which resides outside of ASF infra. They > have their separate support/feedback form. > > Maybe some PMC members could have some credentials for this service. If so, > please share login info in SVN/private/credentials. > > Sincerely, > Dmitriy Pavlov |
Denis,
I granted your account the admin access. Please do all the required changes and let me know once done. - Denis On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 2:00 AM Denis Mekhanikov <[hidden email]> wrote: > Guys, > > Any update? Who has a Nabble admin account for the developers list? > > Denis > On 27 Aug 2019, 14:55 +0300, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>, wrote: > > Hi Denis, > > > > AFAIK, nabble forums are service, which resides outside of ASF infra. > They > > have their separate support/feedback form. > > > > Maybe some PMC members could have some credentials for this service. If > so, > > please share login info in SVN/private/credentials. > > > > Sincerely, > > Dmitriy Pavlov > |
Denis, could you set up the dev list the way needed?
- Denis On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:18 PM Denis Magda <[hidden email]> wrote: > Denis, > > I granted your account the admin access. Please do all the required > changes and let me know once done. > > - > Denis > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 2:00 AM Denis Mekhanikov <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> Guys, >> >> Any update? Who has a Nabble admin account for the developers list? >> >> Denis >> On 27 Aug 2019, 14:55 +0300, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>, wrote: >> > Hi Denis, >> > >> > AFAIK, nabble forums are service, which resides outside of ASF infra. >> They >> > have their separate support/feedback form. >> > >> > Maybe some PMC members could have some credentials for this service. If >> so, >> > please share login info in SVN/private/credentials. >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > Dmitriy Pavlov >> > |
Denis,
I did some investigation on this and started a Nabble support thread: http://support.nabble.com/Line-wrapping-in-quotes-td7604136.html It turned out, that Nabble has a little to do with it. It’s the mail list itself. When you send a plain text message to the dev list either from Nabble or in any other way, it’s getting wrapped to be 80 characters wide. HTML messages don’t have this issue. Nabble uses plain text by default. User list doesn’t wrap quotes though, even if you use plain text format. You can see that my reply in the following thread is wrapped, but not the quote: http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/Ignition-Start-Timeout-if-connection-is-unsuccessful-td29289.html I see two possibilities of solving this issue: 1. Make Nabble always send messages in HTML format somehow. The issue will still occur for other mail clients though. 2. Change the ezmlm configuration to match the one of the users list. We need to find a person who has access to the Apache infra in order to do this. Denis On 11 Sep 2019, 00:53 +0300, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>, wrote: > Denis, could you set up the dev list the way needed? > > - > Denis > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:18 PM Denis Magda <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Denis, > > > > I granted your account the admin access. Please do all the required > > changes and let me know once done. > > > > - > > Denis > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 2:00 AM Denis Mekhanikov <[hidden email]> > > wrote: > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > Any update? Who has a Nabble admin account for the developers list? > > > > > > Denis > > > On 27 Aug 2019, 14:55 +0300, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>, wrote: > > > > Hi Denis, > > > > > > > > AFAIK, nabble forums are service, which resides outside of ASF infra. > > > They > > > > have their separate support/feedback form. > > > > > > > > Maybe some PMC members could have some credentials for this service. If > > > so, > > > > please share login info in SVN/private/credentials. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > |
Thanks for sharing details.
2. Change the ezmlm configuration to match the one of the users list. We > need to find a person who has access to the Apache infra in order to do this We can open a ticket for ASF INFRA. Could you please do that and see what they say? - Denis On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 1:36 AM Denis Mekhanikov <[hidden email]> wrote: > Denis, > > I did some investigation on this and started a Nabble support thread: > http://support.nabble.com/Line-wrapping-in-quotes-td7604136.html > It turned out, that Nabble has a little to do with it. It’s the mail list > itself. > > When you send a plain text message to the dev list either from Nabble or > in any other way, it’s getting wrapped to be 80 characters wide. > HTML messages don’t have this issue. Nabble uses plain text by default. > User list doesn’t wrap quotes though, even if you use plain text format. > You can see that my reply in the following thread is wrapped, but not the > quote: > http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/Ignition-Start-Timeout-if-connection-is-unsuccessful-td29289.html > > I see two possibilities of solving this issue: > > 1. Make Nabble always send messages in HTML format somehow. The issue will > still occur for other mail clients though. > 2. Change the ezmlm configuration to match the one of the users list. We > need to find a person who has access to the Apache infra in order to do > this. > > > Denis > On 11 Sep 2019, 00:53 +0300, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>, wrote: > > Denis, could you set up the dev list the way needed? > > > > - > > Denis > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:18 PM Denis Magda <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > Denis, > > > > > > I granted your account the admin access. Please do all the required > > > changes and let me know once done. > > > > > > - > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 2:00 AM Denis Mekhanikov < > [hidden email]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > > > Any update? Who has a Nabble admin account for the developers list? > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > On 27 Aug 2019, 14:55 +0300, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>, > wrote: > > > > > Hi Denis, > > > > > > > > > > AFAIK, nabble forums are service, which resides outside of ASF > infra. > > > > They > > > > > have their separate support/feedback form. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe some PMC members could have some credentials for this > service. If > > > > so, > > > > > please share login info in SVN/private/credentials. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > |
I've created an INFRA ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19042
Denis On 12 Sep 2019, 00:46 +0300, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>, wrote: > Thanks for sharing details. > > 2. Change the ezmlm configuration to match the one of the users list. We > > need to find a person who has access to the Apache infra in order to do this > > > We can open a ticket for ASF INFRA. Could you please do that and see what > they say? > > - > Denis > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 1:36 AM Denis Mekhanikov <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > Denis, > > > > I did some investigation on this and started a Nabble support thread: > > http://support.nabble.com/Line-wrapping-in-quotes-td7604136.html > > It turned out, that Nabble has a little to do with it. It’s the mail list > > itself. > > > > When you send a plain text message to the dev list either from Nabble or > > in any other way, it’s getting wrapped to be 80 characters wide. > > HTML messages don’t have this issue. Nabble uses plain text by default. > > User list doesn’t wrap quotes though, even if you use plain text format. > > You can see that my reply in the following thread is wrapped, but not the > > quote: > > http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/Ignition-Start-Timeout-if-connection-is-unsuccessful-td29289.html > > > > I see two possibilities of solving this issue: > > > > 1. Make Nabble always send messages in HTML format somehow. The issue will > > still occur for other mail clients though. > > 2. Change the ezmlm configuration to match the one of the users list. We > > need to find a person who has access to the Apache infra in order to do > > this. > > |
The response of the INFRA team:
The quotes you're referring to are generated by end-user mail clients, and have nothing to do with our mailing list software. This is, in part, why most ASF folks use an inline quoting style as opposed to the more common top-posting style. There is nothing Infra can do about the quoting style of list participants, sorry. Let's use the inline quoting. - Denis On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:11 AM Denis Mekhanikov <[hidden email]> wrote: > I've created an INFRA ticket: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19042 > > Denis > On 12 Sep 2019, 00:46 +0300, Denis Magda <[hidden email]>, wrote: > > Thanks for sharing details. > > > > 2. Change the ezmlm configuration to match the one of the users list. We > > > need to find a person who has access to the Apache infra in order to > do this > > > > > > We can open a ticket for ASF INFRA. Could you please do that and see what > > they say? > > > > - > > Denis > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 1:36 AM Denis Mekhanikov <[hidden email]> > > wrote: > > > > > Denis, > > > > > > I did some investigation on this and started a Nabble support thread: > > > http://support.nabble.com/Line-wrapping-in-quotes-td7604136.html > > > It turned out, that Nabble has a little to do with it. It’s the mail > list > > > itself. > > > > > > When you send a plain text message to the dev list either from Nabble > or > > > in any other way, it’s getting wrapped to be 80 characters wide. > > > HTML messages don’t have this issue. Nabble uses plain text by default. > > > User list doesn’t wrap quotes though, even if you use plain text > format. > > > You can see that my reply in the following thread is wrapped, but not > the > > > quote: > > > > http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/Ignition-Start-Timeout-if-connection-is-unsuccessful-td29289.html > > > > > > I see two possibilities of solving this issue: > > > > > > 1. Make Nabble always send messages in HTML format somehow. The issue > will > > > still occur for other mail clients though. > > > 2. Change the ezmlm configuration to match the one of the users list. > We > > > need to find a person who has access to the Apache infra in order to do > > > this. > > > > |
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