Apache Ignite 2.8 RELEASE [Time, Scope, Manager]

[Maxim Muzafarov]

Igniters,


It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache Ignite 2.7
has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance improvements
and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release date.
Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point since the
last major release:

Service Grid,
Monitoring,
Recovery Read
BLT auto-adjust,
PDS compression,
WAL page compression,
Thin client: best effort affinity,
Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
SQL query history
SQL statistics

I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch anymore
and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.


I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release and also
I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the planning
release.

Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
Voting Date: December 10, 2019
Release Date: December 17, 2019


WDYT?

[Alexey Zinoviev]

For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to one month
later, what's about?
There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
improvements in JIRA too

Also I support you as a release manager

Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
Voting Date: January 10, 2019
Release Date: January 17, 2019

пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:

> Igniters,
>
>
> It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache Ignite 2.7
> has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance improvements
> and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release date.
> Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point since the
> last major release:
>
> Service Grid,
> Monitoring,
> Recovery Read
> BLT auto-adjust,
> PDS compression,
> WAL page compression,
> Thin client: best effort affinity,
> Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> SQL query history
> SQL statistics
>
> I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch anymore
> and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
>
>
> I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release and also
> I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the planning
> release.
>
> Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> Release Date: December 17, 2019
>
>
> WDYT?
>

[Dmitry Pavlov]

+1 For Maxim as release manager.

Maxim,

It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of the steps
you will be able to complete yourself.

But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the release
process where PMC rights are required
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.

Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.

Sincerely,
Dmitriy Pavlov


пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:

> For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to one month
> later, what's about?
> There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> improvements in JIRA too
>
> Also I support you as a release manager
>
> Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> Release Date: January 17, 2019
>
> пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Igniters,
> >
> >
> > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache Ignite 2.7
> > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance improvements
> > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release date.
> > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point since the
> > last major release:
> >
> > Service Grid,
> > Monitoring,
> > Recovery Read
> > BLT auto-adjust,
> > PDS compression,
> > WAL page compression,
> > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > SQL query history
> > SQL statistics
> >
> > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch anymore
> > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> >
> >
> > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release and also
> > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the planning
> > release.
> >
> > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> >
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
>

[Maxim Muzafarov]

Alexey,

It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the Christmas
holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the beginning
of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.

Thoughts?



On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> +1 For Maxim as release manager.
>
> Maxim,
>
> It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of the steps
> you will be able to complete yourself.
>
> But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the release
> process where PMC rights are required
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
>
> Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
>
> Sincerely,
> Dmitriy Pavlov
>
>
> пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
>
> > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to one month
> > later, what's about?
> > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > improvements in JIRA too
> >
> > Also I support you as a release manager
> >
> > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> >
> > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Igniters,
> > >
> > >
> > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache Ignite 2.7
> > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance improvements
> > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release date.
> > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point since the
> > > last major release:
> > >
> > > Service Grid,
> > > Monitoring,
> > > Recovery Read
> > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > PDS compression,
> > > WAL page compression,
> > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > SQL query history
> > > SQL statistics
> > >
> > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch anymore
> > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > >
> > >
> > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release and also
> > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the planning
> > > release.
> > >
> > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > >
> > >
> > > WDYT?
> > >
> >

[Alexey Zinoviev]

I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one week
earlier to 11 December
Voting + Release could be after 10th January.

пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:

> Alexey,
>
> It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the Christmas
> holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the beginning
> of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> >
> > Maxim,
> >
> > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of the steps
> > you will be able to complete yourself.
> >
> > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the release
> > process where PMC rights are required
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> >
> > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >
> >
> > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to one month
> > > later, what's about?
> > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > improvements in JIRA too
> > >
> > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > >
> > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > >
> > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > Igniters,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache Ignite 2.7
> > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> improvements
> > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release date.
> > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point since
> the
> > > > last major release:
> > > >
> > > > Service Grid,
> > > > Monitoring,
> > > > Recovery Read
> > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > PDS compression,
> > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > SQL query history
> > > > SQL statistics
> > > >
> > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch anymore
> > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release and
> also
> > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the planning
> > > > release.
> > > >
> > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > WDYT?
> > > >
> > >
>

[Maxim Muzafarov]

Alexey,

Can you, please, clarify some questions.

1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
should address to?

2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
year?

3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one week
> earlier to 11 December
> Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
>
> пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Alexey,
> >
> > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the Christmas
> > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the beginning
> > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > >
> > > Maxim,
> > >
> > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of the steps
> > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > >
> > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the release
> > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> > >
> > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > >
> > >
> > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to one month
> > > > later, what's about?
> > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > >
> > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > >
> > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > >
> > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > Igniters,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache Ignite 2.7
> > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> > improvements
> > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release date.
> > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point since
> > the
> > > > > last major release:
> > > > >
> > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > >
> > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch anymore
> > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release and
> > also
> > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the planning
> > > > > release.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > WDYT?
> > > > >
> > > >
> >

[Nikolay Izhikov-2]

+1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.

Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat and discuss all release date details?
Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?


В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:

> Alexey,
>
> Can you, please, clarify some questions.
>
> 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> should address to?
>
> 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> year?
>
> 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
>
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one week
> > earlier to 11 December
> > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> >
> > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Alexey,
> > >
> > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the Christmas
> > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the beginning
> > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > >
> > > > Maxim,
> > > >
> > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of the steps
> > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > >
> > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the release
> > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to one month
> > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > >
> > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > >
> > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > >
> > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> > >
> > > improvements
> > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release date.
> > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point since
> > >
> > > the
> > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch anymore
> > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release and
> > >
> > > also
> > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the planning
> > > > > > release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > >

[Alexey Zinoviev]

Ok, I'll clarify the situation

1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
should address to?

- Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited free
time the planned dates were written earlier

2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
year?

Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, it
sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the year)
I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.

3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.

The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during
stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you?

2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to
plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another modules
maybe the need additional clarification from another committers.

пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:

> +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.
>
> Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat and
> discuss all release date details?
> Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
>
>
> В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > Alexey,
> >
> > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> >
> > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > should address to?
> >
> > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > year?
> >
> > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one
> week
> > > earlier to 11 December
> > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > >
> > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > Alexey,
> > > >
> > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the
> Christmas
> > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the
> beginning
> > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maxim,
> > > > >
> > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of the
> steps
> > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > >
> > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the
> release
> > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process
> At
> > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> > > > >
> > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> [hidden email]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to
> one month
> > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > >
> > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]
> >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache
> Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> > > >
> > > > improvements
> > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release
> date.
> > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point
> since
> > > >
> > > > the
> > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch
> anymore
> > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release
> and
> > > >
> > > > also
> > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the
> planning
> > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > >
>

[Alexey Zinoviev]

Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between 16 and 19
MSK, is it possible?

пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:

> Ok, I'll clarify the situation
>
> 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> should address to?
>
> - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited free
> time the planned dates were written earlier
>
> 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> year?
>
> Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, it
> sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the year)
> I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
>
> 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
>
> The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during
> stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you?
>
> 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to
> plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another modules
> maybe the need additional clarification from another committers.
>
> пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
>
>> +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.
>>
>> Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat
>> and discuss all release date details?
>> Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
>>
>>
>> В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
>> > Alexey,
>> >
>> > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
>> >
>> > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
>> > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
>> > should address to?
>> >
>> > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
>> > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
>> > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
>> > year?
>> >
>> > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
>> > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
>> > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
>> > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
>> >
>> > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one
>> week
>> > > earlier to 11 December
>> > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
>> > >
>> > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
>> > >
>> > > > Alexey,
>> > > >
>> > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
>> > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the
>> Christmas
>> > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the
>> beginning
>> > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
>> > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thoughts?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Maxim,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of
>> the steps
>> > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the
>> release
>> > > > > process where PMC rights are required
>> > > > >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
>> > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Sincerely,
>> > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
>> [hidden email]>:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to
>> one month
>> > > > > > later, what's about?
>> > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
>> > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
>> > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
>> > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
>> > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
>> [hidden email]>:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Igniters,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache
>> Ignite 2.7
>> > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
>> > > >
>> > > > improvements
>> > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release
>> date.
>> > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point
>> since
>> > > >
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > last major release:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Service Grid,
>> > > > > > > Monitoring,
>> > > > > > > Recovery Read
>> > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
>> > > > > > > PDS compression,
>> > > > > > > WAL page compression,
>> > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
>> > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
>> > > > > > > SQL query history
>> > > > > > > SQL statistics
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch
>> anymore
>> > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release
>> and
>> > > >
>> > > > also
>> > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the
>> planning
>> > > > > > > release.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
>> > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
>> > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
>> > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > WDYT?
>> > > > > > >
>>
>

[agura]

Igniters,

From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it would
be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that beginning
of November is good time for it.

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between 16 and 19
> MSK, is it possible?
>
> пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> >
> > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > should address to?
> >
> > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited free
> > time the planned dates were written earlier
> >
> > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > year?
> >
> > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, it
> > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the year)
> > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> >
> > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> >
> > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during
> > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you?
> >
> > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to
> > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another modules
> > maybe the need additional clarification from another committers.
> >
> > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> >
> >> +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.
> >>
> >> Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat
> >> and discuss all release date details?
> >> Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> >>
> >>
> >> В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> >> > Alexey,
> >> >
> >> > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> >> >
> >> > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> >> > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> >> > should address to?
> >> >
> >> > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> >> > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> >> > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> >> > year?
> >> >
> >> > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> >> > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> >> > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> >> > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one
> >> week
> >> > > earlier to 11 December
> >> > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> >> > >
> >> > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Alexey,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> >> > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the
> >> Christmas
> >> > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the
> >> beginning
> >> > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> >> > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thoughts?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Maxim,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of
> >> the steps
> >> > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the
> >> release
> >> > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> >> > > > >
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> >> > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Sincerely,
> >> > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> >> [hidden email]>:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to
> >> one month
> >> > > > > > later, what's about?
> >> > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> >> > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> >> > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> >> > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> >> > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> >> [hidden email]>:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Igniters,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache
> >> Ignite 2.7
> >> > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> >> > > >
> >> > > > improvements
> >> > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release
> >> date.
> >> > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point
> >> since
> >> > > >
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > last major release:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Service Grid,
> >> > > > > > > Monitoring,
> >> > > > > > > Recovery Read
> >> > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> >> > > > > > > PDS compression,
> >> > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> >> > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> >> > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> >> > > > > > > SQL query history
> >> > > > > > > SQL statistics
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch
> >> anymore
> >> > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release
> >> and
> >> > > >
> >> > > > also
> >> > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the
> >> planning
> >> > > > > > > release.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> >> > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> >> > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> >> > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > WDYT?
> >> > > > > > >
> >>
> >

[Nikolay Izhikov-2]

Hello, Andrey.

> From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.

Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
Can we track planned changes somehow?


В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:

> Igniters,
>
> From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it would
> be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that beginning
> of November is good time for it.
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between 16 and 19
> > MSK, is it possible?
> >
> > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> > >
> > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > should address to?
> > >
> > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited free
> > > time the planned dates were written earlier
> > >
> > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > year?
> > >
> > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, it
> > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the year)
> > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> > >
> > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > >
> > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during
> > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you?
> > >
> > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to
> > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another modules
> > > maybe the need additional clarification from another committers.
> > >
> > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.
> > > >
> > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat
> > > > and discuss all release date details?
> > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > Alexey,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > should address to?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > year?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one
> > > >
> > > > week
> > > > > > earlier to 11 December
> > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the
> > > >
> > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the
> > > >
> > > > beginning
> > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of
> > > >
> > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the
> > > >
> > > > release
> > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > >
> > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to
> > > >
> > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > >
> > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache
> > > >
> > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release
> > > >
> > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point
> > > >
> > > > since
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch
> > > >
> > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the
> > > >
> > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > >

[Maxim Muzafarov]

Folks,

Ok, let's have a discussion using the ASF Slack on September 25-th, 17-00 (MSK)
I've created the channel [1] #ignite-release-2_8
Please, join.


I don't think we should postpone the discussion by November but should
plan and discuss for now the next release dates. In this way, the
community members will be able to plan their activities by these
dates. As Alexey mentioned, planing the release for 2 months is a good
practice. From my point, if some components will not be ready by
previously discussed `scope freeze` date it is absolutely OK to
perform the next (e.g. 2.8.1, 2.8.2) releases.

Currently, Apache Ignite has more than enough features to release. For
instance, the thin client transactions support feature has been merged
[2] to the master branch and this is great!

Again, let's plan and let's discuss the release dates and our expectations.

[1] https://app.slack.com/client/T4S1WH2J3/CNQ51M4FQ
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9410

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 18:04, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hello, Andrey.
>
> > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
>
> Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> Can we track planned changes somehow?
>
>
> В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:
> > Igniters,
> >
> > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it would
> > be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that beginning
> > of November is good time for it.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between 16 and 19
> > > MSK, is it possible?
> > >
> > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> > > >
> > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > should address to?
> > > >
> > > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited free
> > > > time the planned dates were written earlier
> > > >
> > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > year?
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, it
> > > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the year)
> > > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> > > >
> > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > >
> > > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during
> > > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you?
> > > >
> > > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to
> > > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another modules
> > > > maybe the need additional clarification from another committers.
> > > >
> > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat
> > > > > and discuss all release date details?
> > > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > > year?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one
> > > > >
> > > > > week
> > > > > > > earlier to 11 December
> > > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the
> > > > >
> > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the
> > > > >
> > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> > > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of
> > > > >
> > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the
> > > > >
> > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > > >
> > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to
> > > > >
> > > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > >
> > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache
> > > > >
> > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release
> > > > >
> > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point
> > > > >
> > > > > since
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch
> > > > >
> > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the
> > > > >
> > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > >

[agura]

>> From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.

> Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> Can we track planned changes somehow?

We have too many not resolved tickets under IEP-35 label [1]. Also it
makes sense to do some usability testing: JMX beans interfaces, system
views, etc.


[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:04 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hello, Andrey.
>
> > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
>
> Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> Can we track planned changes somehow?
>
>
> В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:
> > Igniters,
> >
> > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it would
> > be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that beginning
> > of November is good time for it.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between 16 and 19
> > > MSK, is it possible?
> > >
> > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> > > >
> > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > should address to?
> > > >
> > > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited free
> > > > time the planned dates were written earlier
> > > >
> > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > year?
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, it
> > > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the year)
> > > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> > > >
> > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > >
> > > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during
> > > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you?
> > > >
> > > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to
> > > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another modules
> > > > maybe the need additional clarification from another committers.
> > > >
> > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat
> > > > > and discuss all release date details?
> > > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > > year?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one
> > > > >
> > > > > week
> > > > > > > earlier to 11 December
> > > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the
> > > > >
> > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the
> > > > >
> > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> > > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of
> > > > >
> > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the
> > > > >
> > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > > >
> > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to
> > > > >
> > > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > >
> > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache
> > > > >
> > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release
> > > > >
> > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point
> > > > >
> > > > > since
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch
> > > > >
> > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the
> > > > >
> > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > >

[Nikolay Izhikov-2]

Got it.

Agree with you.

I think we can finish almost all of this tickets till November.

В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 20:12 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:

> > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > Can we track planned changes somehow?
>
> We have too many not resolved tickets under IEP-35 label [1]. Also it
> makes sense to do some usability testing: JMX beans interfaces, system
> views, etc.
>
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:04 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, Andrey.
> >
> > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> >
> > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> >
> >
> > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:
> > > Igniters,
> > >
> > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it would
> > > be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that beginning
> > > of November is good time for it.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between 16 and 19
> > > > MSK, is it possible?
> > > >
> > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > should address to?
> > > > >
> > > > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited free
> > > > > time the planned dates were written earlier
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > year?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, it
> > > > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the year)
> > > > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > >
> > > > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during
> > > > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to
> > > > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another modules
> > > > > maybe the need additional clarification from another committers.
> > > > >
> > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat
> > > > > > and discuss all release date details?
> > > > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one
> > > > > >
> > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > earlier to 11 December
> > > > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> > > > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release
> > > > > >
> > > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point
> > > > > >
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch
> > > > > >
> > > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > > >

[agura]

Maxim,

>> From my point, if some components will not be ready by
>> previously discussed `scope freeze` date it is absolutely OK to
>> perform the next (e.g. 2.8.1, 2.8.2) releases.

It is good approach if partial implemented features aren't merged to
master branch. Unfortunately this is not our case.

I don't see any reasons to force new Apache Ignite release. Time is
not driver for release. If we want release Ignite periodically we must
significantly review the process. And most valuable change in this
process is feature branches that will not block new release by design.

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:12 PM Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> >> From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
>
> > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > Can we track planned changes somehow?
>
> We have too many not resolved tickets under IEP-35 label [1]. Also it
> makes sense to do some usability testing: JMX beans interfaces, system
> views, etc.
>
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:04 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, Andrey.
> >
> > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> >
> > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> >
> >
> > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:
> > > Igniters,
> > >
> > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it would
> > > be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that beginning
> > > of November is good time for it.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between 16 and 19
> > > > MSK, is it possible?
> > > >
> > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > should address to?
> > > > >
> > > > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited free
> > > > > time the planned dates were written earlier
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > year?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, it
> > > > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the year)
> > > > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > >
> > > > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during
> > > > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to
> > > > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another modules
> > > > > maybe the need additional clarification from another committers.
> > > > >
> > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat
> > > > > > and discuss all release date details?
> > > > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one
> > > > > >
> > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > earlier to 11 December
> > > > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> > > > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release
> > > > > >
> > > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point
> > > > > >
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch
> > > > > >
> > > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > > >

[Maxim Muzafarov]

Andrey,

Agree with you. It can affect the user impression.

Can you advise, how can we guarantee in our case when we complete with
current partially merged features that someone will not partially
merge the new one? Should we monitor the master branch commits for
such purpose?

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 20:18, Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Maxim,
>
> >> From my point, if some components will not be ready by
> >> previously discussed `scope freeze` date it is absolutely OK to
> >> perform the next (e.g. 2.8.1, 2.8.2) releases.
>
> It is good approach if partial implemented features aren't merged to
> master branch. Unfortunately this is not our case.
>
> I don't see any reasons to force new Apache Ignite release. Time is
> not driver for release. If we want release Ignite periodically we must
> significantly review the process. And most valuable change in this
> process is feature branches that will not block new release by design.
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:12 PM Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > >> From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> >
> > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> >
> > We have too many not resolved tickets under IEP-35 label [1]. Also it
> > makes sense to do some usability testing: JMX beans interfaces, system
> > views, etc.
> >
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:04 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello, Andrey.
> > >
> > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> > >
> > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> > >
> > >
> > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:
> > > > Igniters,
> > > >
> > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it would
> > > > be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that beginning
> > > > of November is good time for it.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between 16 and 19
> > > > > MSK, is it possible?
> > > > >
> > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited free
> > > > > > time the planned dates were written earlier
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > > year?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, it
> > > > > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the year)
> > > > > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during
> > > > > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to
> > > > > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another modules
> > > > > > maybe the need additional clarification from another committers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat
> > > > > > > and discuss all release date details?
> > > > > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > > earlier to 11 December
> > > > > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> > > > > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Alexey Zinoviev]

The planned before 2_3 months release dates are good defender from
partially merged features, In my opinion

Or we should have Master and dev branch separetely, and merge to master
only fully finished features

пн, 23 сент. 2019 г., 20:27 Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:

> Andrey,
>
> Agree with you. It can affect the user impression.
>
> Can you advise, how can we guarantee in our case when we complete with
> current partially merged features that someone will not partially
> merge the new one? Should we monitor the master branch commits for
> such purpose?
>
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 20:18, Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Maxim,
> >
> > >> From my point, if some components will not be ready by
> > >> previously discussed `scope freeze` date it is absolutely OK to
> > >> perform the next (e.g. 2.8.1, 2.8.2) releases.
> >
> > It is good approach if partial implemented features aren't merged to
> > master branch. Unfortunately this is not our case.
> >
> > I don't see any reasons to force new Apache Ignite release. Time is
> > not driver for release. If we want release Ignite periodically we must
> > significantly review the process. And most valuable change in this
> > process is feature branches that will not block new release by design.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:12 PM Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> > >
> > > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > > > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> > >
> > > We have too many not resolved tickets under IEP-35 label [1]. Also it
> > > makes sense to do some usability testing: JMX beans interfaces, system
> > > views, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:04 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello, Andrey.
> > > >
> > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> > > >
> > > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > > > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:
> > > > > Igniters,
> > > > >
> > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it
> would
> > > > > be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that
> beginning
> > > > > of November is good time for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between
> 16 and 19
> > > > > > MSK, is it possible?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <
> [hidden email]>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What
> exactly
> > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have
> tickets we
> > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to
> limited free
> > > > > > > time the planned dates were written earlier
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but,
> from
> > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and
> regression
> > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release
> for a
> > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1
> November, it
> > > > > > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released
> during the year)
> > > > > > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8
> release in
> > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an
> additional
> > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach
> have some
> > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML
> components.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes
> during
> > > > > > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok
> for you?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal
> practice to
> > > > > > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about
> another modules
> > > > > > > maybe the need additional clarification from another
> committers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <
> [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of
> October.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite
> Slack chat
> > > > > > > > and discuss all release date details?
> > > > > > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me.
> What exactly
> > > > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have
> tickets we
> > > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th
> but, from
> > > > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and
> regression
> > > > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without
> release for a
> > > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8
> release in
> > > > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an
> additional
> > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an
> approach have some
> > > > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML
> components.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <
> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we
> can move one
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > > > earlier to 11 December
> > > > > > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <
> [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or
> earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on
> holidays (the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays
> at the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it
> completed `code
> > > > > > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after
> 10th January.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <
> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights,
> and most of
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete
> steps from the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > > > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC
> membership.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should
> be moved to
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of
> bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last
> major Apache
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of
> performance
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for
> their release
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things
> from my point
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the
> master branch
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of
> the year.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache
> Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release
> manager of the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>

[Nikolay Izhikov-2]

> merge to master only fully finished features

It's already true for Ignite master branch.


В Вт, 24/09/2019 в 09:03 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:

> The planned before 2_3 months release dates are good defender from
> partially merged features, In my opinion
>
> Or we should have Master and dev branch separetely, and merge to master
> only fully finished features
>
> пн, 23 сент. 2019 г., 20:27 Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Andrey,
> >
> > Agree with you. It can affect the user impression.
> >
> > Can you advise, how can we guarantee in our case when we complete with
> > current partially merged features that someone will not partially
> > merge the new one? Should we monitor the master branch commits for
> > such purpose?
> >
> > On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 20:18, Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maxim,
> > >
> > > > > From my point, if some components will not be ready by
> > > > > previously discussed `scope freeze` date it is absolutely OK to
> > > > > perform the next (e.g. 2.8.1, 2.8.2) releases.
> > >
> > > It is good approach if partial implemented features aren't merged to
> > > master branch. Unfortunately this is not our case.
> > >
> > > I don't see any reasons to force new Apache Ignite release. Time is
> > > not driver for release. If we want release Ignite periodically we must
> > > significantly review the process. And most valuable change in this
> > > process is feature branches that will not block new release by design.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:12 PM Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> > > > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > > > > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> > > >
> > > > We have too many not resolved tickets under IEP-35 label [1]. Also it
> > > > makes sense to do some usability testing: JMX beans interfaces, system
> > > > views, etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:04 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello, Andrey.
> > > > >
> > > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > > > > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:
> > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it
> >
> > would
> > > > > > be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that
> >
> > beginning
> > > > > > of November is good time for it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <
> >
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between
> >
> > 16 and 19
> > > > > > > MSK, is it possible?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <
> >
> > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What
> >
> > exactly
> > > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have
> >
> > tickets we
> > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to
> >
> > limited free
> > > > > > > > time the planned dates were written earlier
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but,
> >
> > from
> > > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and
> >
> > regression
> > > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release
> >
> > for a
> > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1
> >
> > November, it
> > > > > > > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released
> >
> > during the year)
> > > > > > > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8
> >
> > release in
> > > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an
> >
> > additional
> > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach
> >
> > have some
> > > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML
> >
> > components.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes
> >
> > during
> > > > > > > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok
> >
> > for you?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal
> >
> > practice to
> > > > > > > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about
> >
> > another modules
> > > > > > > > maybe the need additional clarification from another
> >
> > committers.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <
> >
> > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of
> >
> > October.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite
> >
> > Slack chat
> > > > > > > > > and discuss all release date details?
> > > > > > > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me.
> >
> > What exactly
> > > > > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have
> >
> > tickets we
> > > > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th
> >
> > but, from
> > > > > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and
> >
> > regression
> > > > > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without
> >
> > release for a
> > > > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8
> >
> > release in
> > > > > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an
> >
> > additional
> > > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an
> >
> > approach have some
> > > > > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML
> >
> > components.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <
> >
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we
> >
> > can move one
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > > > > earlier to 11 December
> > > > > > > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <
> >
> > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or
> >
> > earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on
> >
> > holidays (the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays
> >
> > at the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it
> >
> > completed `code
> > > > > > > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after
> >
> > 10th January.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <
> >
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights,
> >
> > and most of
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete
> >
> > steps from the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > > > > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC
> >
> > membership.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should
> >
> > be moved to
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of
> >
> > bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last
> >
> > major Apache
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of
> >
> > performance
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for
> >
> > their release
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things
> >
> > from my point
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the
> >
> > master branch
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of
> >
> > the year.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache
> >
> > Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release
> >
> > manager of the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[antonovsergey93]

Hi, I would add to release scope my ticket [1].

Any objections?

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12225

вт, 24 сент. 2019 г. в 09:21, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:

> > merge to master only fully finished features
>
> It's already true for Ignite master branch.
>
>
> В Вт, 24/09/2019 в 09:03 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > The planned before 2_3 months release dates are good defender from
> > partially merged features, In my opinion
> >
> > Or we should have Master and dev branch separetely, and merge to master
> > only fully finished features
> >
> > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г., 20:27 Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Andrey,
> > >
> > > Agree with you. It can affect the user impression.
> > >
> > > Can you advise, how can we guarantee in our case when we complete with
> > > current partially merged features that someone will not partially
> > > merge the new one? Should we monitor the master branch commits for
> > > such purpose?
> > >
> > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 20:18, Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maxim,
> > > >
> > > > > > From my point, if some components will not be ready by
> > > > > > previously discussed `scope freeze` date it is absolutely OK to
> > > > > > perform the next (e.g. 2.8.1, 2.8.2) releases.
> > > >
> > > > It is good approach if partial implemented features aren't merged to
> > > > master branch. Unfortunately this is not our case.
> > > >
> > > > I don't see any reasons to force new Apache Ignite release. Time is
> > > > not driver for release. If we want release Ignite periodically we
> must
> > > > significantly review the process. And most valuable change in this
> > > > process is feature branches that will not block new release by
> design.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:12 PM Andrey Gura <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> > > > > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > > > > > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> > > > >
> > > > > We have too many not resolved tickets under IEP-35 label [1]. Also
> it
> > > > > makes sense to do some usability testing: JMX beans interfaces,
> system
> > > > > views, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:04 PM Nikolay Izhikov <
> [hidden email]>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello, Andrey.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > > > > > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:
> > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it
> > >
> > > would
> > > > > > > be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that
> > >
> > > beginning
> > > > > > > of November is good time for it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <
> > >
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack
> between
> > >
> > > 16 and 19
> > > > > > > > MSK, is it possible?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > >
> > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me.
> What
> > >
> > > exactly
> > > > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have
> > >
> > > tickets we
> > > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due
> to
> > >
> > > limited free
> > > > > > > > > time the planned dates were written earlier
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th
> but,
> > >
> > > from
> > > > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and
> > >
> > > regression
> > > > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release
> > >
> > > for a
> > > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not
> to 1
> > >
> > > November, it
> > > > > > > > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released
> > >
> > > during the year)
> > > > > > > > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8
> > >
> > > release in
> > > > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an
> > >
> > > additional
> > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an
> approach
> > >
> > > have some
> > > > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML
> > >
> > > components.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes
> > >
> > > during
> > > > > > > > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it
> ok
> > >
> > > for you?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the
> normal
> > >
> > > practice to
> > > > > > > > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about
> > >
> > > another modules
> > > > > > > > > maybe the need additional clarification from another
> > >
> > > committers.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <
> > >
> > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end
> of
> > >
> > > October.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new
> Ignite
> > >
> > > Slack chat
> > > > > > > > > > and discuss all release date details?
> > > > > > > > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me.
> > >
> > > What exactly
> > > > > > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we
> have
> > >
> > > tickets we
> > > > > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December
> 11-th
> > >
> > > but, from
> > > > > > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization
> and
> > >
> > > regression
> > > > > > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without
> > >
> > > release for a
> > > > > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge
> 2.8
> > >
> > > release in
> > > > > > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and
> an
> > >
> > > additional
> > > > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an
> > >
> > > approach have some
> > > > > > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML
> > >
> > > components.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > >
> > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok,
> we
> > >
> > > can move one
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > > > > > earlier to 11 December
> > > > > > > > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > >
> > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or
> > >
> > > earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on
> > >
> > > holidays (the
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year
> holidays
> > >
> > > at the
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it
> > >
> > > completed `code
> > > > > > > > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after
> > >
> > > 10th January.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <
> > >
> > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer
> rights,
> > >
> > > and most of
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete
> > >
> > > steps from the
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires
> PMC
> > >
> > > membership.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates
> should
> > >
> > > be moved to
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of
> > >
> > > bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last
> > >
> > > major Apache
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of
> > >
> > > performance
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting
> for
> > >
> > > their release
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting
> things
> > >
> > > from my point
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze
> the
> > >
> > > master branch
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the
> end of
> > >
> > > the year.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache
> > >
> > > Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release
> > >
> > > manager of the
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>

--
BR, Sergey Antonov

[agura]

Maxim,

We can't do it because there is no strong rules about the process.

But I have an idea how we can release 2.8 faster (but I still don't
see any reasons for forcing release).

We can create release branch before first IEP-35 related commit and
cherry-pick all commits from master branch to release branch. Note, it
is just idea. In previous post Alexey Zinoviev asked to postpone the
release.

About new big features... I suggest introducing a new process which is
similar to JDK in some aspects: only fully completed feature can be
merged to master. If feature is not ready for release time it should
be moved to the next release.

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:27 PM Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Andrey,
>
> Agree with you. It can affect the user impression.
>
> Can you advise, how can we guarantee in our case when we complete with
> current partially merged features that someone will not partially
> merge the new one? Should we monitor the master branch commits for
> such purpose?
>
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 20:18, Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Maxim,
> >
> > >> From my point, if some components will not be ready by
> > >> previously discussed `scope freeze` date it is absolutely OK to
> > >> perform the next (e.g. 2.8.1, 2.8.2) releases.
> >
> > It is good approach if partial implemented features aren't merged to
> > master branch. Unfortunately this is not our case.
> >
> > I don't see any reasons to force new Apache Ignite release. Time is
> > not driver for release. If we want release Ignite periodically we must
> > significantly review the process. And most valuable change in this
> > process is feature branches that will not block new release by design.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:12 PM Andrey Gura <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> > >
> > > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > > > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> > >
> > > We have too many not resolved tickets under IEP-35 label [1]. Also it
> > > makes sense to do some usability testing: JMX beans interfaces, system
> > > views, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:04 PM Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello, Andrey.
> > > >
> > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release.
> > > >
> > > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready?
> > > > Can we track planned changes somehow?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет:
> > > > > Igniters,
> > > > >
> > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it would
> > > > > be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that beginning
> > > > > of November is good time for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between 16 and 19
> > > > > > MSK, is it possible?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited free
> > > > > > > time the planned dates were written earlier
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, it
> > > > > > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the year)
> > > > > > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during
> > > > > > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to
> > > > > > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another modules
> > > > > > > maybe the need additional clarification from another committers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat
> > > > > > > > and discuss all release date details?
> > > > > > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly
> > > > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we
> > > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from
> > > > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression
> > > > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a
> > > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in
> > > > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional
> > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some
> > > > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev <[hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at  December 18, 2019, ok, we can move one
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > > > earlier to 11 December
> > > > > > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed `code
> > > > > > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th January.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov <[hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process  At
> > > > > > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC membership.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved to
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > > > > > later, what's about?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [hidden email]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their release
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my point
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > last major release:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > PDS compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL query history
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master branch
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >